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Perma-Cloak (Spy)

Posted: March 7th, 2007, 2:07 am
by pounded
I was down in the Warren on Dantooine grinding Junk Loot (used Notebooks) for a guildie, when I found out that my Spy Smoke Bomb lasted forever. I was just dropping my Venemous Ploy like a madman, all while perma-cloaked, looting as if there was no tommorow. This might be of use to anyone out there grinding notebooks (and a bunch of other junk), or, it might lead to perma cloak OUTSIDE of the Warren... Give it a shot and post your results :wink:

Posted: March 7th, 2007, 2:23 am
by pounded
Just a little update:

I was able to use Perma-Smoke Bomb, but sadly, not Without a Trace. Also, I used Smoke Bomb inside the Warren, and was able to walk outside and stay Perma-Cloaked. I'm not really sure what use this may be of, but, perhaps one of yall could lend your opinions of good ways to use this.

Posted: March 7th, 2007, 3:18 am
by dazzac
lol I guess you're new to Spy.

Spies can remain perma-cloaked, it's what they're all about - there's no exploit in it. Smoke Bomb and Sneak don't have any timer like a Jedi Cloak, they last forever (or until you are uncovered by a player or an NPC)

Posted: March 7th, 2007, 11:42 am
by pounded
Hehe, actually I have been a spy for a while now. I was under the impression that only Sneak was Perma-Cloak. While in Sneak, you can't perform any attacks or you will be decloaked where as Smoke Bomb allows you to drop your Venemous Ploy. I may be wrong, however, on the duration of Smoke Bomb. I thought it was only like 2 minutes give or take a few seconds.[/quote]

Posted: March 7th, 2007, 12:52 pm
by usmcmp
As far as the different stealthes go its like this:
Sneak: only can be activated while you are not in combat. Will be broken if you attack or are incaped. Also breakable by binos/detect specials

Smoke Bomb: Can be activated while in combat. Stronger snare than what is on sneak however you can drop venomous ploy while in smoke bomb.

Without a Trace: Can be activated while in combat. For several seconds after you activate it you are undetecable however it changes over into sneak after those few seconds.( A side note is when the WoT changes into sneak you see a little smoke cloud where they are)

Posted: March 9th, 2007, 12:02 pm
by pounded
Maybe I am unclear on this, but isn't Smoke Bomb on a timer? It doesn't actually show a timer on your buffbar, but I have tested it alone on top of my guildhall. Everytime, I pop out of cloak after like maybe 2 minutes or so. Sneak sticks forever, like you said, and WoT is maybe a 45 second timer. Thanks for your help guys/gals.

Posted: March 17th, 2007, 2:37 am
by usmcmp
WoT is on a timer and eventually turns into sneak i beleive. Smoke bomb wont run out on its own though you either have to be broken or switch out of it