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SWG Macro: BER 300+ Hand Sampling

Posted: April 16th, 2007, 4:52 pm
by rfwheeler80
I looked through and didn't see anything like this, so if there is please let me know. I have been using the following for a very long time now, and for those not familiar with it, this is worth the read.

I'll briefly describe what this does, a background of why/how this works, and the an explanation of how to do this yourself.

I) What this achieves is the ability to run not a single sample, but almost a continuous sample for any amount of time you choose.

II) To understand why this works, we first need to understand how sampling in SWG itself works. Imagine each sample as a loop that looks something a bit like this:

Kneel (A)
/ ..................... \
/ ...................... \
/ ...................... \
Sample(B)___Recover(C)

You start by kneeling (A). The system determines a sample amount (B) then after the sample, your recover (C) and ready to start the loop again.

In between (B) and (C) the game gives one of four potential outcomes:
1) Successful sample
2) Failed sample
3) Ability to focus on a large pocket of close by resources(300 action)
4) Ability to recover a large pocket of resources in your current
position (300 action)

Possible outcome 1) and 2) will complete the loop and move you to part (C) then back to (A) to begin the loop again. When you get either possible outcome 3) or 4), this pauses the loop until you make a decision. If you /stand, then /sample again, it will begin a new loop while you have the paused loops still waiting for your input. If you can get a large number of these pop-ups (lets say 10 for example) you will have 10 loops waiting to be restarted. Follow the directions below, and once you begin to sample once more, you will have all 10 sample loops running at once.

III) Execution:
To execute this properly, you will need a macro and a hotkey as I will outline here:

1) Hotkey. The easier way to get pop-ups.

/stand;
/sample;
/pause 0.5;
/stand;
/sample;
/pause 0.5;
/stand;
/sample;
/pause 0.5;
/stand;
/sample;
/pause 0.5;
/stand;
/sample;
/pause 0.5;
/stand;
/sample;
/pause 0.5;

Bind this to an icon and place it in your toolbar. Hit it once, and you toon will sample 6 samples at once, increasing your chances of getting a pop-up by 6x. Once you have sampled, prepare to hit it again, ad nauseum until you get the desired number of pop-ups. I find the best number for a level 90 toon is between 9-12.


You now have your paused loops ready to work for you, pulling that sweet Musty steel.

2) Macro: Pop-up stopper.

Now that you have all these loops ready to work for you, the last thing you want is to have a pop-up stopping your loop mid-sample. This macro will take care of it.

macro name: Oogabooga
/ui action defaultButton;
/pause6;
/macro oogabooga;


What's that? Enough already? I know you just want some of that good stuff for your SW parts etc, so lets put them all together.

With all the pop-ups lines up on your screen, type /sample. This will start your manual sample. Now, one by one hit the "Ignore" option on each box at a 1-1.5 second interval. Note: DO NOT HIT CANCEL! "Ignore" only. Now type /macro oogabooga. Lastly, sit back, relax and watch as you hand sample up to 600k resources overnight :)

Note: It is important that you have all the hand sampling expertise on your trader for this to work correctly.


Enjoy!

Posted: April 16th, 2007, 4:54 pm
by Tault_admin
Can premium members say yay or nay to this being moved to a confirmed section.

Posted: April 17th, 2007, 7:18 am
by expurt
Nice guide and what TA said^

Posted: April 17th, 2007, 7:43 am
by rfwheeler80
Thanks :) I remember flipping out when I first figured this out long ago, and you can make some real nice cash harvesting musty resources while you are sleeping :D

Posted: April 21st, 2007, 5:45 pm
by expurt
Bump

Posted: April 22nd, 2007, 11:05 am
by xerenix
I will have to test this out :)

Posted: April 23rd, 2007, 6:50 pm
by morven
Sorry I posted a guide similar to this after this one was posted. It didn't show up for me ... never saw it. I even spent around an hour looking for it in every forum after my thread was locked. Finally when I logged in today it was there. And Yay it does work. I have used this but I will try out your macros because they differ from the ones I used and tbh yours sound better!

Posted: April 24th, 2007, 1:00 am
by mxyz123
A big YAY !

THis turned my crafter into an uber harvester tbh (some BER 300+ could be really accurate rating).
Plus no need to deposit power and pay maintenance. :OO: hah

With 12 threads running simultaneously I've extracted on a 45% concentration spot over 26k Ore in really no time.
Hope the spawn lasts another day or two.

Thanks

Posted: April 24th, 2007, 3:21 am
by expurt
Yay'd and Moved to confirmed. Submitted for award.

Posted: April 24th, 2007, 8:27 am
by Tault_admin
500 to you

Posted: April 26th, 2007, 9:30 pm
by noxnoctis
This does not work. The macro breaks after about 3mins, the toon stops harvesting and begins to survey. I have follow this exactly and it breaks every time. Are we missing a key step most assume?
This is dealing with the Pop-up macro. The first part of this bug still works well.

Posted: April 27th, 2007, 1:27 am
by shinshinshuu
noxnoctis wrote:This does not work. The macro breaks after about 3mins, the toon stops harvesting and begins to survey. I have follow this exactly and it breaks every time. Are we missing a key step most assume?
This is dealing with the Pop-up macro. The first part of this bug still works well.



Either you aren't following the instructions properly or, well that's about it, lol. I am on two seperate toons doing this as I type, works very good and has worked for quite awhile.

Posted: April 27th, 2007, 2:38 am
by noxnoctis
well everything is copy and paste ingame so no chance of a typying error. The issue seems to be with the pop-ups.

macro name: Oogabooga
/ui action defaultButton;
/pause6;
/macro oogabooga;

Is this macro loop suppost to attempt survey? Like I said before I did this multiple times just to make sure it wasnt a timing issue. I have seen the macro work somewhat where it will get rid of the pop-ups, but it doesnt last long. Eventually a popup breaks the loop and the toon does a survey loop. There has to be something that is being ommited or assumed. A timing issue in regards to how fast you must start the macro after /sample and the closing of the boxes. etc.

Posted: April 27th, 2007, 6:32 am
by mxyz123
noxnoctis wrote:well everything is copy and paste ingame so no chance of a typying error. The issue seems to be with the pop-ups.

macro name: Oogabooga
/ui action defaultButton;
/pause6;
/macro oogabooga;

Is this macro loop suppost to attempt survey? Like I said before I did this multiple times just to make sure it wasnt a timing issue. I have seen the macro work somewhat where it will get rid of the pop-ups, but it doesnt last long. Eventually a popup breaks the loop and the toon does a survey loop. There has to be something that is being ommited or assumed. A timing issue in regards to how fast you must start the macro after /sample and the closing of the boxes. etc.


Heh ... please make a check that you closed your Survey Tool window prior to starting this macro.
Otherwise the /ui action defaultbutton will cause you to survey for minerals, chemicals or whatever survey tool window is open.

Posted: April 27th, 2007, 11:23 am
by noxnoctis
omg so simple :O) thanks ----Confirmed it works, this site just paid for itself :O)