Desynthing for fun and profit. : FFXI General Discussions

"when facing the correct direction"; i never knew this made a difference.. haha .. thats funny .. are you sure this really makes a difference, or is it just some kind of superstition you carry based on coincidences of past experience? If you are sure that the direction you are facing changes the result rate, could you please explain how? Like what days, what direction. Thanks~

[quote="labenset";p="46857"]"when facing the correct direction"; i never knew this made a difference.. haha .. thats funny .. are you sure this really makes a difference, or is it just some kind of superstition you carry based on coincidences of past experience? If you are sure that the direction you are facing changes the result rate, could you please explain how? Like what days, what direction. Thanks~[/quote]

Posted below is a picture of the guide I use.
It may sound silly, but the directions really do matter. I have done tests. So have my friends.

One example- A friend of mine was about 5 levels below the skill cap for desynthing shell shields. When he faced "random" directions he would get more breaks and no HQs. When he faced the direction for Lightning Crystal HQ/Skillgains he was getting the Turtle Shell 1/3 of the time. Breaks were about the same. He was also gaining very well and actually made profit off of the desynth.

Now, this is by no means a scientific experement, but many people have experienced great results with this method as well. This method was first posted onother website and was discussed in great detail by other crafters.

Here's the picture I use. There is also another picture posted here on the boards that goes in much more detail. I personally think less is more.

From doing over 7000 black ink synths I must say that compass is a big load of bull.

(About half the time I face west while synthing, half the time I face northeast, there's no difference in total profit. Noone who synths along with me ever face northeast and they have same hq/fail rate as me at same skill.)

It might affect desynthing though, eventhough I've done a lot of desynthing it's been too spread out to take statistics.

[quote="asl18fs";p="46936"]From doing over 7000 black ink synths I must say that compass is a big load of bull.

(About half the time I face west while synthing, half the time I face northeast, there's no difference in total profit. Noone who synths along with me ever face northeast and they have same hq/fail rate as me at same skill.)

It might affect desynthing though, eventhough I've done a lot of desynthing it's been too spread out to take statistics.[/quote]

This may not seem very scientific, (Since when is FFXI scientific ) but I've done huge runs of silver ingots and post 20, I have never ever got a break on a silver ingot if I was facing the correct direction and avoided crafting on watersday. I have gotten breaks 1/10-15 times when facing the direction for skillgain/HQs.

There are some things we don't understand in FFXI. Take planting for example. There are proven formulas for getting certain items, yet even if you follow the instructions exactly you will get crap instead of what you wanted.

No matter what, there will always be an element of randomness, no matter how proven something is or is not.

Another great Desynth is this,

Skill: Leather Craft
Cap: 15 (I think)

Buy leather belts from the store next to the tanners guild in Sandoria, desynth using lightning crystal.

Normal: Sheep Leather
HQ: Sheep Leather
HQ2: Iron ingot
HQ3: 2 x Iron Ingot

This is great if u do smithing, can cut down costs of stacks of iron ingots, which i think are about 40k a stack, and I think these belts sell for a couple hundred gil each from the npc.

goblin mask + wind = sheep leather

I think it caps at lvl 4 or so. Same lvl sheep leather caps. Feel free to correct my aim.

[quote="buckbuck";p="47087"]goblin mask + wind = sheep leather

I think it caps at lvl 4 or so. Same lvl sheep leather caps. Feel free to correct my aim.[/quote]

This one is not really an entirely profitable synth unless you farm your own masks completely.

On my server the masks are more expensive than leather.

[quote="vortex";p="47030"]Another great Desynth is this,

Skill: Leather Craft
Cap: 15 (I think)

Buy leather belts from the store next to the tanners guild in Sandoria, desynth using lightning crystal.

Normal: Sheep Leather
HQ: Sheep Leather
HQ2: Iron ingot
HQ3: 2 x Iron Ingot

This is great if u do smithing, can cut down costs of stacks of iron ingots, which i think are about 40k a stack, and I think these belts sell for a couple hundred gil each from the npc.[/quote]

Thanks a bunch. I think I completely forgot about that one.
I swore I put that one up there.

The cap is 13 and the belts are sold between 391-442gil depending on fame. If you farm your own crystals this can be a profitable desynth with regular HQs.

Thanks for that chart. I have done some Test myself with Gardening and the days Have allot to do with your results. Its the difference between getting 18 fire crystals or getting 45 fire crystal out of one harvest. Also try making things on the days the shop is closed Holy !@#$%^&* does that suck. I had to learn that the hard way.

I never heard about the direction to face but I'm pretty sure it will work. And it doesnt hurt to try anyway.

is there a desynth for quadev backplate????

[quote="asuranelvaan";p="60855"]is there a desynth for quadev backplate????[/quote]Yes:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=809

wheres the other chart thats more detailed i need to know what way to face for wind crystals on different days besides earth.... this chart does not work for the other days.

What determines the level you can safely desynth an item at? I've always gone with the premise that I can safely do so if I am 10 lvls above the level the items caps at. Results have been positive, though I have gotten breaks.

There is no safelly with desynthesis.