Claiming With THe Delay? : FFXI General Discussions

Anyone KNow A good way of claiming NM. If You Spam You Get An error And if you do /targetnpc with /delay 1 with voke its alrey claimed so a delay is too late and spam is to early. there a new trick becuz same dude keeps claiming and theres about 15 differnt people in 1 spot

The new trick involves using a bot like hydru's which creates a "dummy" version of the NM your hunting (just like Draw Near does). Then your computer is set to keep spamming the macro on the dummy version until the real one pops. Once the real one pops, your target changes to the real deal and vokes. Im assuming this method eliminates the "You cannot perform that action." message. However, ive never used his bot "Checkspawn"

CheckSpawn Just Raises It I Dont think you can use it for a dummy and claim the real NM. But Reguardless If You Spam the Dummy Then Switch to the Real NM you should still get the error if u do i to fast...

I thinks its not that you spam an ablitiy on the dummy but that you trick yourself into attacking it. You toon goes into attack mode waiting for spawn , every notice no delay when auto attacking another mob after first dies? Then when mob spawns you get warped to it , while already in attack mode. Then you use a WS or basic attack to claim mob. The new delay stops ABLITIES not attacks , and if you use a dagger and warp to the mob you will get pull 90% or time. This is how it beats the system.

azural wrote:I thinks its not that you spam an ablitiy on the dummy but that you trick yourself into attacking it. You toon goes into attack mode waiting for spawn , every notice no delay when auto attacking another mob after first dies? Then when mob spawns you get warped to it , while already in attack mode. Then you use a WS or basic attack to claim mob. The new delay stops ABLITIES not attacks , and if you use a dagger and warp to the mob you will get pull 90% or time. This is how it beats the system.

There is a couple gilselling shells on Ramuh that pretty much own all high gil NM's. You can never go to these areas and not see them camping it. Amemet; Roc; they have even started camping god triggers recently because of the valueable drops on some sky/sea gods now >.<

I know the one shell uses a method with auto-targeting because you can physically see them in attack mode with their back turned to the spawn areas. They stand to the walls with their character in attack mode and the second it spawns ... voke or whatever goes off. The same 6 people are always camping Amemet (3 on each side) and they are the only people that ever sell skins and mantles.

-- if you want to here a humorous story, read on --

Me and a friend farmed spider webs near Amemet spawn while leveling NPC's for a week or so. I saw Amemet about 20 times and all but one time the gilseller LS got the claim. The one time they didn't, we got the claim on pure luck because they were dealing with guivre aggro one of their members got. They tried pulling Guivre to us so its AoE would kill us while fighting Amemet >.> So my friend, Shadowbind Amemet, then we used sneak and ran down underground more past the spiders and raptors in the basement to the tunnels by archni's spawn. 10 seconds later, amemet came running to us. We continued to kill it and right before it was dead ... here come the gilsellers with Guivre and about 10 spiders, a couple raptors, a load of crabs aggroing them still trying to claim the lizard >.< They managed kill the exp pt there with Guivre AoE and get their selves killed in the process and then Guivre proceeded to whoop on everyone else within range. We killed amemet and i escaped us out just incase we had hate on something.

I then came back and raised all the exp pt that died and left the gil sellers. They homepointed but no more than 15 mins later they were all 6 back. I'd like to know how these people are still around after 6 months plus of owning this area, trying lame MPK attempts on everyone and countless GM calls on them by many people. (I think SE hires gilsellers. Just another way for SE to make money on their game >.>)

rreite2233 wrote:(I think SE hires gilsellers. Just another way for SE to make money on their game >.>)

This actually made me laugh out loud.

Seriously, if S-E wanted to sell gil they'd just make it. Not cause unnecessary angst by camping mobs with chinese which require a wage.

Actually I think SE does SEll gil and they keep gil sellers as a cover up.. you know them jps are nothing but scam artist. how hard is it to actually shut down gil sellers. buy gil and delete the account the sender is from. if they use that acount to just sell gil then delete the account who sent them he gil first. Im Not a programmer or a genius but its not that hard. this is why they got the job and work for SE and not mcdonalds

No a smarter reply would be that they dont create gil because if they know anything about economics, creating more currecny just cheapens the value of your dollar. Hiring drones to farm the gil for you is the only way. Supply and demand, if the gilsallers have the gil, then others want it and its more valuable. If money grew on trees, its not worth !@#$%^&*.

unless they changed the TOS agreement for playing the game, it is against rules to monopolize a specific area of the game from other players. Gil sellers almost all break this rule. Selling gil for real currency is anothe rule

by having the gilsellers owning all the HNM/NM drops that we want, they leave us three options.

1. Buy gil to buy the item

2. Farm up your own gil to buy the item. But even though you farmed up your own gil, you are buying the items from gilsellers still. You're just not paying them with cash. Instead you just gave them 18mil gil that you farmed for a drop they got ... which in turn, they are going to sell to someone buying gil.

3. Beat out the gilsellers to get the item drops your self and/or synth what you want with your own drops. This is the only way not to fund the gil sellers.

No not everyone selling expensive items in the AH is a gilseller ... just 90% of them on my server are lol

Use some punctuation guys, my eyes are bleeding from reading some of these comments.

On-topic:

It's extremely hard to figure out who the gilsellers are. As you know, they don't use their main account that does the work in-game for sending the actual gil, they use mules. These mules don't even last that long, they probably re-make new ones every few weeks.

Like I Said Even IF They Use Mules. Im Sure SE Can Track Who Sent The GIL to hat Mule If They Really Wanted to.

unless they changed the TOS agreement for playing the game, it is against rules to monopolize a specific area of the game from other players. Gil sellers almost all break this rule. Selling gil for real currency is anothe rule Confused

by having the gilsellers owning all the HNM/NM drops that we want, they leave us three options.

1. Buy gil to buy the item

2. Farm up your own gil to buy the item. But even though you farmed up your own gil, you are buying the items from gilsellers still. You're just not paying them with cash. Instead you just gave them 18mil gil that you farmed for a drop they got ... which in turn, they are going to sell to someone buying gil.

3. Beat out the gilsellers to get the item drops your self and/or synth what you want with your own drops. This is the only way not to fund the gil sellers. Rolling Eyes

4. Use bots and help each other out with better bots to beat the gilsellers~

Better bots solves nothing, because I'm pretty sure they would get a hold on it too.

How many gilsellers use this site? There must be a few, and I'm guessing any new stuff they have access to. So all that is doing is weakening any chance that players such as myself have of obtaining nice items.

Hell, I'm currently fishing Moat Carps at the minute because camping NMs is just so ridiculous. Everytime I go to camp, the SAME people are always there.

true that. i was camping meeg or w/e his name is and the fuma drop yagudo.. anyways theres always the same 12 people there camping it i used my bot and theres only from what i noticed 2 of the gil sellers useing the bots. cause i got outclaimed by one. by the time the mob acatually showed in my screen it was already red.. so i dont think they all use it just a selected few use the bots ... that way when one guy gets banned they can give the bot to the next guiy =)

lol.. or there like every other game -_- go looka t the enormous list of games that u can buy currency and items for -_-