Currency Exchange Opinions... : General Discussion

[Admin]

Yes, our couriers will be selected from our Premium Members.

[truenova]

Willing to assist on asura server, sent a pm but I know admin gets alot so I posted here as well.

[tault_sarin000]

I'd be for it, if you need someone for EQII:)

email me at sarin000@gmail.com

clint

[varient]

This looks like a great site. I was wondering how much I would have to donate in WoW gold to get Premium? I currently know of no fast way to get gold(sense fairbanks got nerfed), but i can always work my !@#$%^&* off on my 60.

[Guest]

quick question, say i gave currency for EQ2 would i be able to get currency in WoW instead of like cash. cause if i read EULA correct that isnt exactly selling to a 3rd party site its just giving to them and not making a profit =]

[haxhax]

well its like how ebay ppl do it

they sell "the time" it takes them to get that item
so to go around EULA they arent selling the actual virtual item(s)
they are selling the personal effort to retrieve that item

so if its fine on ebay ...no worries

[Guest]

This is a GREAT idea. It could also have better prices than other site so theres an added bonus to buying a subscription or donating an exploit or whatever. I'd definately love to help handel the transactions. 10% would be nice. Every bit counts.

Edit: I've got many games such as City of Heroes, Guild Wars, World of Warcraft, Everquest II I'd be willing to help out with.

[ladarus]

I'd like to help . I got WoW, EQ1(all expansions up to DoN, SWG, and soon to have GW. of course I'll have to reactivate all my accounts and do some major download time as not even DSL is available in the boonies where I live.

[_xisle_]

Count me in I will handle transactions for 10% of the trade in EQ2.

[sinema]

This is what kills the game in the first place, gil buying and selling ..

on FFXI I spend a great deal of my time camping NM's and stealing their kills to stop them from getting gil..

It just creates a bad gaming enviroment... it doesn't give you rock star status to be a gil farmer.. ^.^

People will do anything to be accepted.

[tault_pohyu]

People will do anything to be accepted

yeah...like download bots, hacks, and use exploits....and even pay for them...you are actually supporting this, so it sounds to me like someone is a hipocrite...

[sinema]

I replied to this but it seems to have been deleted...


I have not really used Xunleashed.

The reason I continue to have a prem. membership is due to the roll-over subscription process.

I didn't realize that after the first term that it would roll over and charge you on your annual date.

XUnleashed didn't offer what I was looking for in a windower so I stuck with Windower 3.2. It's a program that offers something to some people and I was not one of those people.

So I'm not a XUnleashed User.. I tried it a couple times but it was more of a hassle then what I would like.

This method of gil selling only benefits the site owners.. they profit off the people who put all their time into being accepted on a web site ^.^

I'm an Economist .. If people are stupid enough to spend hundreds of hours earning gil only to give it to a site for 10% commission then Good for the site owners..

Use people for what they are worth ^^ get something out of life.

[darlatan]

It is a good idea but it has problems. The biggest problem is the fact that if anyone other than xunleashed them selves is handleing the trade directly no one is going to trust it. I wouldn't trust giving gil or gold to someone I totally don't know any can't view any sort of actual feedback on. And what happens when you do get one bad trader that tries and succeeds at getting a shipment of gold and not giving the desired person the due guild wars currency. This idea could help a lot of people but it could also breed dislike for xunleashed if people start causing problems which I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW is a very common place thing in the digital online gamming market. It only takes one person to say they sent something and never got something back to ruin everything for everyone. The real question is can xunleashed prevent this in anyway and is xunleashed willing to put their reputation in the hands of others?

[sinema]

In addition to the above,

And this goes for any site online that sells intangible items or items of intellect..

If I go to IGE and buy currency and pay through paypal.com .. I can then dispute the purchase ( after I got the currency ) with my Credit Card company.. Saying that I never got the currency.. ( which I had )

There's no way for IGE to defend themselves..

They can't prove they sent the currency .. and they can't prove I got the currency.. All the servers that IGE etc buy/sell currency through do not support currency trade and will not help sites pursue the matter.

They can't take it to court because they would need the gaming site to provide information.. and if a currency exchange server "outs" themself that they are selling currency on a specific currency they will end up getting their accounts cancelled.. and currency lost.

Fun Fun Fun ^.^


P.S. For the Wannabe Lawyers out there ..

No they can't approach the sites with any legal actions because the sites make it clear that those types of transactions are against their policies..

There's so many things that prevent currency exchange sites from seeking anything legally .. it's great ^^

You can abuse the hell out of them and nothing they can do.. because the burden of proof is on them to show the credit card company they gave you the item you are saying you never got.

The only proof they can show is that you paid for the item.. they can't prove you got it.. unless they ask you to reply after the fact and say you got it..

Also there's a huge thing called International Trade laws.. I say find a Chinese gaming site that sells currency and buy about 500 USD worth .. and then switch it up and get your money back after getting their currency..

Communists countries can't do foreign trade with the US without a lot of red tape being broken..

And I doubt a group of Chinese Sellers will have the power to do that.

[Tault_admin]

Eh sinema please read how the system works. Ill put it in ffxi gil terms.

1) Player 1 sells us gil for 10 dollars.
2) Player 2 who is commiting times to us picks up that gil.
3) Player 2 then finds players 3 who wants to buy gil.
4) Player 2 then gives the gil to player 3 after he pays for it.
5) player 2 gets 10% commision on the sale in the form of in game currency.

All in all they wont be farming to get 10% for us. We dont ask anyone to do that. They get fully paid if they want to farm gil for us. Of course we know there will be people who try to scam us and we arent going to allow giant purchases for anyone to start. When someone tries to scam us we will of course ban thier account from our system.

We are working on ways to stop people from doing this. IE we send a letter confirming the purchase that can be tracked via fed ex. Also its an intangible item so alot of the time paypal will have our side. WE might only use credit cards to. We have a variety of decessions to make on that as we see how the system works.

As for people saying they dont get payments ect ect. We have a system to stop that to. We will require whenever someone makes a payment to take a screen shot of the payment being done. If they dont or forget then its their fault for allowing that.

This in turn will stop people who want to claim they didnt get what they paid for. If the person who was suppose to do the sell doesnt take a screen shot and there is a complaint they will have thier accounts banned from the site and ever using our system again.