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Posted: August 10th, 2010
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Please give valid reasons so we can weigh the reponses and conclude a decision.

Some facts i've gathered upto now which may help your decision.
1) Can be used to ruin PvP.
2) Has resulted in instant perma-ban's on TC when used carelessly.
3) Can be used to complete some instances very fast.
4) Can use it to afk/travel across a map without any obstructions.
5) Can enhance afk-forage scripts.
6) Can't be nerfed but can be broken and complicated to update in future.


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Posted: August 10th, 2010
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For me, it's about what it will do to pvp.


We've seen videos of people using it in pvp and I've seen it first hand used in restuss.

The issue is this. With just limited number of people knowing about it it's still being used poorly. If it is released to the general public it's going to kill pvp because the noobs will just abuse it.


So I'm a Nay for the release.

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Posted: August 10th, 2010
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The "Instant Cool-down" exploit was terrible for PvP. Imagine this? lol

I honestly think the negative effects out way the positive ones. I never thought I would say nay to a exploit being released but I'm definitely with Cuervo on this one.

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Posted: August 10th, 2010
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cuervogold wrote:For me, it's about what it will do to pvp.


We've seen videos of people using it in pvp and I've seen it first hand used in restuss.

The issue is this. With just limited number of people knowing about it it's still being used poorly. If it is released to the general public it's going to kill pvp because the noobs will just abuse it.


So I'm a Nay for the release.
Pretty much this. The current "gurrcat" (walk through snares/stasis) is a pain and is EXTREMELY easy to duplicate and improve. I can't even imagine this in PvP as I'm sure people who get the file from here will send it to some of their friends. Also it was made by editing certain collision effects correct?
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I'm going to have to go with nay, it would just RUIN PvP, people will run into trees and hide, and such, but if they do, I hope they enjoy the ban/suspension.

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Posted: August 10th, 2010
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I would like to say yes. The idiots using it in PVP will see a ban very quickly afterwards, because everyone will report them. In my opinion it would be an amazing help in PVE.[/u]
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I see no issue with it being released.

Hold on, don't shoot me.

I do think that, if in the hands of a PvPer, this could easily turn into a problem like the Insta-Cooldown thing did. If it's going to be released, there are going to have to be some explicit instructions/guidelines/reccomendations when using it.

I can see this being a fantastic tool in PvP in Restuss. If you're already a master of LOSing the med center in the city, or the buildings at the SP, no one is going to think you're going through walls in the buildings if you're already known for LOSing.

/two cents
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gameplyer54 wrote:I see no issue with it being released.

Hold on, don't shoot me.

I do think that, if in the hands of a PvPer, this could easily turn into a problem like the Insta-Cooldown thing did. If it's going to be released, there are going to have to be some explicit instructions/guidelines/reccomendations when using it.

I can see this being a fantastic tool in PvP in Restuss. If you're already a master of LOSing the med center in the city, or the buildings at the SP, no one is going to think you're going through walls in the buildings if you're already known for LOSing.

/two cents
If one or two players have it like it is now it won't be a big deal and not 100% sure on this, but I believe you can't go up? objects such as the med center pillars unless this can be triggered via macro, or soemthing. But I'd still not like to see this released.
Posted: August 10th, 2010
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I do see the benefits of using this in instances and foraging, but to be honest, its going to ruin pvp. I would never use it in pvp, but I know tons of people will once its released. I love a good exploit, but this one shouldn't be released just because of the adverse affect it will have on pvp.

I have no real issue with people sharing this privately because I know there are some like myself who would never abuse it or share it with others.

But I have to nay it publicly.
Posted: August 10th, 2010
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rugburn wrote:I do see the benefits of using this in instances and foraging, but to be honest, its going to ruin pvp. I would never use it in pvp, but I know tons of people will once its released. I love a good exploit, but this one shouldn't be released just because of the adverse affect it will have on pvp.

I have no real issue with people sharing this privately because I know there are some like myself who would never abuse it or share it with others.

But I have to nay it publicly.
I have to agree with this, unfortunately. I'm a little biased by how much I would like to have this to use it in instances and some PVE stuff... But yeah, I recast my vote to keep it away from the public.
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Another pvp killing sploit fixed and working as of now

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This got nerfed so fast last time >.>
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Very nice!

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this site has gotten real bad, i dont even share exploits anymore just among other members who have shared in the past too (u know by looking at tubucks)
Posted: August 10th, 2010
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evilfigment wrote:Another pvp killing sploit fixed and working as of now

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This got nerfed so fast last time >.>
Again, pretty sweet! PvP killer but it is funny to watch all my guys try to find the spy that is moving the complete other direction!!

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