Armor mitigation : SWG Premium Discussions

Here is the story: I am in a decent PVP guild. We PVP all the time and nearly everyone in our guild knows how to PVP. I am not trying to brag about my guild nor will I post the name of our guild here. However, the other day 1 commando tanked 5 of our decent PVP'ers for over 5 minutes. We had 2 medics, 1 smuggler, and 2 Jedi. Granted this group doesn't do major DPS numbers, still we should be able to wipe out 1 commando in under 1 minute in my opinion. So I decided to take a screen shot of the part of the combat log. This is what I found: the commando's armor was mitigating over 97% of energy damage. For example, I did force throw on him in critted 1863 and armor blocked 1809! This was a critical hit there was no block or glancing blows against this attack. Also, the commando's armor was blocking over 93% of kinetic damage. For example, our smuggler critted the commando for 463 points armor absorbed 431. Also, there was no glancing or block numbers on this attack. In my opinion attaining armor ratings this high is not possible for a commando to do for 5 consecutive minutes. Perhaps it might be possible for 30 seconds with the new droid head buff which grants 5k extra armor for 30 seconds I think. Any way, I was wondering if anyone has a link to figure out the exact amount of armor rating needed to absorb this much damage or if anyone knows how it’s possible to get this much armor rating with or without exploiting. Thanks for the input guys.

If he has protection and DOT/Damage Absorb expertise + ENT Buff + that buff you mentioned, it's quite possible it's not an exploit but infact, a legal thing-a-ma-jig

This as said by jagexblade is more than likely possible, IF the commando was a General it would be even harder, you should check the screenie to see what buffs he had bc if his buff bar looked something like this;

Lt gcw+Cpt. gcw+Commander gcw+Cl. gcw+General gcw+ commando heal over time+ent buff+con buff+ stam buff

Also don't forget the weapon and armor attachments, he would very easily be able to take down a group of 5 decent pvpers.

silent one wrote:This as said by jagexblade is more than likely possible, IF the commando was a General it would be even harder, you should check the screenie to see what buffs he had bc if his buff bar looked something like this;

Lt gcw+Cpt. gcw+Commander gcw+Cl. gcw+General gcw+ commando heal over time+ent buff+con buff+ stam buff

Also don't forget the weapon and armor attachments, he would very easily be able to take down a group of 5 decent pvpers.

Yup most likely it was this, My main is Commando, And even though they nerfed them I can still destroy 5 decent PvPers. Its most likely just a very well rounded PvP commando

Commando can tank well, but not 97% mitigation

consdering 15k armor is like 75% I don't see how he could do it legit ;P

revjosh wrote:Commando can tank well, but not 97% mitigation

consdering 15k armor is like 75% I don't see how he could do it legit ;P

My thoughts exactly. I don't think all the buffs currently in game could give you over 15 k armor for 5 mins. Anyone have the armor mitigation formula?
Not to say that a fully buffed commando can be hard to take down but armor mitigation would have to be near 20 k in my opinion.

Cheat engine working again ?

when did this happen? was it 1-2 weeks before chapter 7 hit live? if yes, then maybe the commando used the ent buff exploit to get high armor?

This happened 3 days ago.

The Commando, what armor was he wearing?
Because Recon, you shouldn't have used energy anyways.

Also, Crapmandoes with block suits, can block 100% of damage roughly 40% of the time.

royobannen1 wrote:mandoes (AND JEDI) with block suits, can block 100% of damage roughly 40% of the time.

qfe

I just heard braggin about killin more after eating DEn fiz pudding

So now 77 + luck food gives u better chance to kill?

morven wrote:

revjosh wrote:Commando can tank well, but not 97% mitigation

consdering 15k armor is like 75% I don't see how he could do it legit ;P

My thoughts exactly. I don't think all the buffs currently in game could give you over 15 k armor for 5 mins. Anyone have the armor mitigation formula?
Not to say that a fully buffed commando can be hard to take down but armor mitigation would have to be near 20 k in my opinion.

Im a commando, I run a Energy Layered Recon suit of armor, with the + 2000 inate armor commandos have, un buffed I run 10,187 energy proc.
I Have a PSG, 2499 Energy, Ent buff +3500. just with these stats im pushing 16,186 energy proc. I have "youll regreat that" through expertise which if snared gives +2000 across the bord. so that ups it to 18,186 energy protection. dont for get the Gcw buffs, fizz pudding, Officer buffs and officer stims, + medic buffs, the highest I ever reached was a little over 21k. had like 20ish buffs going, anything over 20k energy proc is about 100% mitigation to energy. Not to add that all the other buffs contribute to other Defencive stats as well, I belive I was pushing around 4k block and 3k Glancing blows.

I would say use only kinetic aginst him, as he is probly running the same as me and my kinetic sucks, fully buffed Im pushing 7k to 8k with kinetic.

So it is possable to have that high armor absorbtion.

now going for 5 mins, that is tricky and debatable. It possably was not 5mins but seemed like it, as he was not dying. I always get the /tells of Haxing cuz they do not know how to pvp. as much buffs and protection as I run, there are still some pvp'er who are just far better than I and take me down no matter what, but they do admit Im one of the toughest Commando's that they fight.

Armor is overrated.

4.5K armor break + Tusken King Rifle = You dead.