Dark Knight or Monk?? : FFXI General Discussions

Which one is best for END GAME??

To show you something the they can do (if the player has decent timing):
http://www.taultunleashed.com/phpbb2/vi ... hp?t=23142
(I have good timing (because Ive practiced it with Warrior))

PLZ think carefuly and give a short-long answer!

If you think another race is best with the class plz post it in a reply!

THX in advance, JOOSH_5

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OK, some ppl say MNK so to reinforce the DRK here's some good things:

*Fast ATK http://www.taultunleashed.com/phpbb2/vi ... hp?t=23142
= This allows you to use high delay (520~) scythes and have a MAX attack time of 5 sec from 8 sec (I know I timed it)

AtK Speed= 520 delay divided by 8= 65 delay x 5= 325 delay

Attack Speed equation (I THINK): 1sec= 65 delay

So this turned the sycthe into a 325 delay weapon!!!!!!!
Now DRK is doing fast POWERFUL hits!!!!!

*HIGHEST ATTACK
*Scythes go up to 95-98 damage!!!!!!!!!!
*Thicker more defensive armor than MNK's (and most other classes)
*BLK magic
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Ok, Some Monk upsides

* 2 attacks
* good VIT
* Martial Arts
With Hand-2-Hand its starts off at 520 + (Hand-2-hand weapon delay)
Then ends up at 320 + (Hand-2-hand weapon delay)
*Chi Blast
*Charka
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OK......I Thought DRK would win nearly hands down considering the macro, attack (at lvl 4 my WAR with a Scythe does more damage than my MNK's 2 hits lvl 8 and they have roughly the same attack time!!!)
Oh and not to metion the armor rating!!!!!!!!!The souleater I think DRK wins with PTY and SOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. Is the server Sylph any good and are any of u guys on it?

Guess I am 1st.

Monk Galka! Ohh hell Yeah!

This job best uses the Glakans natural traits. Galkans are made for this job.

Dark Knight Galka! OK not the Best!

While they can be good Dark Knights their lack of Intellingence and poor MP make other Races more suited for this job. You can buy gear to improve this but then it not really the Galkan but the gear that is helping the job.

This being said a Player can overcome anything. I have seen White Mage Galkans. On both sides of the extreme. Some that SUCK and some that are GOOD.

OK personally I go with DRK because of the armor and faster attack!

So PLZ vote EVERYONE!

I say monk in end game. Go ask any Lvl 75 and most probably they would tell you Mnk is a better choice.

Monk
-Chi Blast on KIRIN can go up to 1200 dmg or more.
-Galka Mnk is one of the best mnk around due to the high Vit(a multiplier for chi blast) and high Str( dmg multiplier)
-Mnk's H2H dmg is high at end game. 80-100+ dmg per hit is no problem. What's more, they can hit 2-3 times when they gain their job trait: kick attack.

Put abilities aside, HNMLS usually require mnks more than Drk. ( for chi blast.)

Dark knight
-Galka = low mp + low int.
-Drk's miss rate is high. + high delay = ......

-However, Drk's 2Hr is NOT TO BE UNDERESTIMATED. Blood weapon + Last resort + soul eater + Kraken club = Ownage. There was a video showing how the Drk/nin own Adamantoise (HNM) with these conditions.. can't remember where the video was @@;;.

Actually Elvaans > Galkas for MNK.
Elvaans have the highest STR which MNKs can't get enough of whilst exping and during endgame MNK will normally only be in the alliance to Chiblast and Elvaan has the highest MND in the game which is the multiplier not VIT. VIT is the multiplier for Chakra.






Galka make arguable the best DRK because of high HP which adds damage when Souleater is used. INT isn't really important and DRK will have no problems with MP past 41 (Refresh) or even 25 when BRD's get Ballad. DRKs should only be casting around three spells a fight anyway; Debuffs, Aspir and Drain.

In a party. Last I saw he didnt ask that!

Either way a PTY like GEAR changes everything. Also the skill of the player. I have seen Taru Monks that put to shame Galkan monks. I have also seen Taru Thieves that outdamage Mithra Thieves. But it not the normal!

Part of being a DRK is getting to use your Spells. If you have high Int. this = higher Damage.

I dont know about you I rather have multiple attacks of 100. Than one big one of 120.

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Galka make arguable the best DRK because of high HP<---AAAHHHHahahahaha Last time a checked Darks dont Tank so much for High HP)) which adds damage when Souleater is used<-- How much more Damage if its over 500 then you have a point if its less than 100 pssst that is laughable considering the lack of MP you will have)). INT isn't really important and DRK will have no problems with MP past 41 (Refresh) or even 25 when BRD's get Ballad<-- Assuming your in a PTY but if that is the case you forgot the uber gear and the food that the Galka can Buy to improve all he LACKS)). DRKs should only be casting around three spells a fight anyway; Debuffs, Aspir<-- Why accoriding to you they dont need MP are you confused)) and Drain<-- What happend to Stun and what about MB.

opps.. my mistake i forgotten it's Mnd that affects Chi blast. Vit is for chakra. I don't play mnk >.<. lolx.
Hmmm.. but it seems that in practice, i have seen more chi blast dmg from galka instead of elvaans @@;.

Oh well, any race can play these jobs well with skill and gear.

Yes, I forgot about Stun but DRK shouldn't be casting elemental magic.

Monkie!

Im a 60drk and a 60mnk on asura server and i say i prefer my mnk to drk

MNK is probably more wanted at end game. However, Galka is a very good choice for either one. I also think Galka makes the best DRK, since they shouldn't be using too much MP anyways in a battle, they have a great balance of STR, DEX, and INT. But Elvaan are probably the best end game monks (due to the high STR and MND.) Oh yeah, I also think Galka DRK looks really awesome.

i didnt bother to read all of the posts above me, cause im too lazy, but I assume they all said what is true...MNK owns DRK endgame, handsdown.

and your comparison of lowlvl jobs...is redundant.

even in the 40's MNK starts pwning !@#$%^&*. Raging fists is amazing when you first get it. MNK also has a lot of acc+/att+ gear available, and can hit upwards 40+ each swing, consistently landing. These are numbers from around lv 45, since im currently xping brd at this level.

also your whole statement about cancel attack and reengage etc...thatd be probably singlehandedly the most annoying thing in FFXI if u did that for more than like 1 level. Id probably quit if that was the only thing that made a job good.

o_O - is that all there is to it?. I don't have access to the guide/exploit or whatever it is, but - well...thx lol. Someone better censor that out lol^^

wtf..this is common knowledge, a long while back, dno if they patched it and there si some new leet hack thats out...but people used to dissengage/reengage to attack faster...mostly JP because they are hella anal and have the patience to do this over and over and over..

NA on the other hand are smart and say no thanks

monk is an awesome job and very usefull in HNM and god shells. drk on the other hand is not played as often and may be a job you want to level because not many others play it past 37? Don't underestimate a drk's mp skills ... then again, don't underestimate a mnk against a lot of things ^^

Don't let race stop you either. As already said, you can get gear to almost make up for the 'most' of your lack of stats. Yes you can get +MP gear to make up for the loss and there are very good galka whm's ... but a taru will have much larger mp pool and a galka will have a high hp pool. The others are in the middle somewhere ... take your pick.

I am a 75whm taru -- 700HP/1200MP with no merits placed on +HP/+MP yet. I love having lots of MP, it lets me do lots of casting and still have enough MP left over to not stop my party. On the other hand ... being one-shotted suck haha. Doesn't happen often as you learn to stay out of harms way when Meteor, Comet, or lvl IV -ga's or lvl V spells are present