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 Whites Lets do a Monopoly : FFXI General Discussions
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Posted: June 14th, 2005, 9:53 pm
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alex2001
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Ok for all whites out thier.
I am sure you all have noticed that the Prices of chocobos are going up.
Especailly in Mea usually its 2k or more
Jeuno 1k
Hola and Dem are Usually 1k too.
This Means Teleports can Go up too. Come one people dont be greedy to beat another White trying to help you. If someone is selling Teleports for 1k dont lower the Price. Make a monopoly. Either they can take a Choco which is 1k out of Jeuno or more or pay Ur price.
Another thing allot of Gillsellers have figured this out and usually will /sh 1k for the teleport they want. Hint Hint Hint its time to Push the teleport price up.
One important thing as A white when I am Teleporting for Gil. I never charge Friends or the LS members.
Thier are those out their that will say this will mess with the ecenomy. One thing the ecenomy is messed up and know one is doing anything. Whites are the only ones that have not done anything and we are still paying for it. With the High prices of Spells.
Again its time and long overdue to bump up the price of the teleports.
1k for the mains if in Jeuno 2k for the others.
In the towns is different.
Bastock and Sand Dem and Holla should be 500. Mea 1k others 2k.
Windy Mea 500. Dem and Holla 1k others 2k.
This way u dont hurt the noobs begining.
Also if someone talks to you with a /tell and ask for a lower price their is not reason you cant help them if the are new to the game.
If people are that cheap they can always boat over and then choco from the towns. so its not hurting anyone. Just the gilsellers which are paying more anyway.
Again Whites dont fight other Whites with Price only one you are hurting is yourself since people will still pay the other White prices and you get all the people that will spam you with the 500 prices.
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Posted: June 14th, 2005, 10:10 pm
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alex2001
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This will make a big difference in your income.
100PC's X500= 50K which can be done in about 1 hour if its really Busy
100PC's X1k = 100k again if busy this can be done in about 1 hour.
This will hopefully help most Whites since they cant do much of anything else. Also most PC will pay this since Chocobo Prices are so high. The only thing still low is the Boats between the 4 towns. Everything else out of Jeuno and the Teleports Chocobo are usually 1k or more.
Why put up prices. Whites need spells and they also need food. Why are also depent on ptys for Xp which all that have play white know that is not always the easiest thing to do.
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Posted: June 15th, 2005, 7:02 am
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dnserror
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Greedaloxes like you are the reason prices are so high to begin with.
Lately whenever I see white mages shouting 1k per teleport in Jeuno, I go get my whm and start teleporting at 500. Our economy is screwed up enough, what we should be doing is trying to make a monopoly to lower prices on things, not raise them.
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Posted: June 15th, 2005, 8:57 am
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drillbit
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so by undercutting to 500 you have single handedly doubled the effort needed to buy the outragous prices of spell's and armor people demand you to have.
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Posted: June 15th, 2005, 10:12 am
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asl18fs
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If the white mages started asking 2k/port I'd still pay, honestly I think that's quite worth it. And double that from non jueno locations!
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Posted: June 15th, 2005, 10:26 am
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dnserror
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drillbit";p="67013 (!empty($user->lang['WROTE'])) ? $user->lang['WROTE'] : ucwords(strtolower(str_replace('_', ' ', 'WROTE'))): so by undercutting to 500 you have single handedly doubled the effort needed to buy the outragous prices of spell's and armor people demand you to have.
Prices are only so high because people will pay that price. So if everyone had less money, prices would have to go down, or else the items wouldn't sell.
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Posted: June 15th, 2005, 11:02 am
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drillbit
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dnserror";p="67021 (!empty($user->lang['WROTE'])) ? $user->lang['WROTE'] : ucwords(strtolower(str_replace('_', ' ', 'WROTE'))): drillbit";p="67013 (!empty($user->lang['WROTE'])) ? $user->lang['WROTE'] : ucwords(strtolower(str_replace('_', ' ', 'WROTE'))): so by undercutting to 500 you have single handedly doubled the effort needed to buy the outragous prices of spell's and armor people demand you to have. Prices are only so high because people will pay that price. So if everyone had less money, prices would have to go down, or else the items wouldn't sell.
Prices will never drop as long as gilfarmers are allowed to play the games its there RL income. People buy gil from them to buy items they farmed. It will never end.
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Posted: June 15th, 2005, 5:40 pm
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alex2001
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That is not being Greedy. Why are my spells worth so much more blame the farmers not the whites.
Is called business. We have to pay more for everything we are buying for are whites.
Again like I said before too if you lower the price your going to get hit with all main teleports and while you are busing people around the other white is making twice as you and still getting tele to main for 1k. Only one you are hurting is urslef since most people already pay the extra price. Again for gil farming and allot of HNM and NM timing is very important.
I got paid 15k for a teleport hola once because he needed to be thier that quick.
Its supply and demand just like Gas. Prices keep going up because the economy allows it.
Explain this to me then Why did choco prices go up. You dont think SE is trying to Give you a hint. Especially Mea so close to Castle O is normally 2k. Umm Yes i think its time to Bring Prices up.
Most people didnt pay 1k before because they could Choco out of Jueno for about 500. So they didnt need the teleports that bad. Now they look at 1k and look at Choco hmmm let me think 1.5k or 1k for tele and less time.
Time = Money
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Posted: June 15th, 2005, 5:57 pm
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alex2001
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I had to pay
500k for erase
209k for raise 2
90K for reraise 2
I had to quest the teleports since Ah are crazy.
I delvled since I had to solo it too. But I got them.
100k for the teleports scrolls X 5= 500k
10k for Hola only teleport that was low at the time i baught it.
That over 1M gil. On scrolls alone have you seen the armor prices and not to mention the staffs 200k or more each.
Why are they so high. They expect you to pay higher prices while they enjoy the same Teleport prices. Is that Fair ummm let me think NO.
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Posted: June 15th, 2005, 11:49 pm
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asl18fs
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I had to pay:
0 gil for erase
0 gil for raise 2
0 gil for reraise 2
0 gil for all teleport scrolls
Doing the stuff yourself saves a lot of gil plus game is more fun that way.
Oh yeah, 200k for elemental staves is a BARGAIN. A lot of us bought those for 500k+. The staves are VERY good for their price.
And the reason staves are expensive is because they require high skill goldsmithing and woodworking. The beads for them is like 94 goldsmithing or something plus gardeners set a base price on them. Which in turn uses tree saplings made from tree cuttings, takes a helluva lot of time. Which in turn comes from farmers in zitah etc.
So the reason staves cost so much is because of the farmers in zitah!
No seriously, considering the many stages involved in making a staff that like all mages want the price isn't all that high. It's actually too low compared to comparable items.
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Posted: June 16th, 2005, 7:50 am
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moonvball
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Okay Rant On:
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of hearing all these mages !@#$%^&* and moan about how much their spells and armor cost. Remember this: Once you buy a spell it's yours, it doesn't go away. When a ranger buys ammo, that money gets pissed away with every shot!
"That over 1M gil. On scrolls alone have you seen the armor prices and not to mention the staffs 200k or more each. "
Just for a reference as a 71 Ranger I've EASILY spent over 60Million in ammo alone. Not to mention the 8 million I just had to spend on lvl 70 gear and that wasn't even the best gear I could afford!
So my point is that the mages have no room to whine and cry about how much they spent on their spells and armor. Especially the spells since most of them can be quested or BCNM'd. But in the end, it comes down to the lazy or non-social mage that either doesn't want to get the help or doesn't have enough friends to help that causes them to buy their spells. Honestly why don't you do a little research on Allakhazam and see how much gil you could of saved yourself by questing your spells.
There is at least a dozen different things you can do to make gil without being a Telewhore!
Rant Off:
With all that said, I'm willing to pay higher prices for Tele's as part of the overall inflation of the Economy. The reason SE raised the prices for Choco's was to attempt to remove some of the gil from the game. Same thing goes for the increased listing fees (which backfired on them, causing prices to rise even higher). By raising those prices it allowed for removal of a much larger amount of gil. If you decrease the overall amount of gil on the server you will in turn cause deflation.
So Telewhore your way to whatever 800k spell you need to buy next instead of questing it because you are lazy or have no friends to help you. Just don't expect the maybe .001% of people on this site that are actually whm's to make a difference by raising their prices. Honestly, if you wanted to try and rally the troops you should be doing it on a bigger forum like Allakhazam or KillingIfrit.
I'm out!
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Posted: June 16th, 2005, 5:50 pm
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alex2001
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As for Rng. Umm your a Gil thrower Suck it up too you picked the job. I have RNG too and I know how it expensive it is.
Staffs problaly went down because their are so many now and they are being circulated between players. LOL inflation is a !@#$%^&* aint it.
Another thing I got most of my spells by questing them too.
ex Erase
8 hours of BCNM 40 until it droped. <-- Allot of work if teleporting for 8 hours at 1k each = 500k - 800k umm yeah what a bargain.
Also the point of raising the price of the tele is to actually make gil instead of wasting your time. When you can do something else.
Do you actaully think mages only stay as mages. I have both Nin and Rng so I am paying for those jobs too. Eventually when high enough I pay the same you are.
Also I dont normally teleport for gil since I usually farm and do other things that yield more gil. When I do teleport I always notice that some whites lower the pirces and that is why I started the post. I usually charge what people are willing to pay. Most still pay 1k even if I am asking 500. Those that still pay 500 get teleport too since i really dont care.
Either way those are valid points. That support raising the prices so thanks. If your a RNG and teleport for gil. It will be a little eaiser making the gil twice as fast. As for the staffs I am glad that they went down.
Hopefully Silver Bullets go down by the time I can use them  .
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Posted: June 16th, 2005, 6:03 pm
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alex2001
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About trying to rally troops. I dont have too on my server the prices are higher already. Thier are still the few that lower the price but the new prices are set at 1k for mains and 2k for others. Just trying to share with others.
Telewhoring Whites have had this name forever. I guess people want us to give if for free and make no money at all. If we did that what be the difference between us and ..... Ohh wait your not talking about that. 
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Posted: June 16th, 2005, 10:46 pm
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asl18fs
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You could always use the xufish script to get rich!
Certainly better gil than teleporting and if you're a bit sensible with the configuration you don't have to pay too much attention to it.
I made 4 million gil today, granted I was lucky to get two mercurial swords in one day but still, it was a nice day. 
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Posted: June 17th, 2005, 6:11 am
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alex2001
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You have no idea how close i am to cracking and getting Xu and running fishing sprees.
4M gil I have never even had 1M with me at one time 4M. I would last me for a long time sighhhs.
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