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IMPORTANT NEWS!!!!! : FFXI General Discussions

Posted: November 11th, 2005, 8:12 pm
 
rouroni
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Ok guys for all of you that want Fleetool, DO NOT USE IT!, Each time you use it and move in Hyper,Flee etc.................. It sends a red flag to the server, enough of those and you will be having a friendly tell from [GM]Whatshisface. Flee tool is very un-safe and very un-wise to use, SO DO NOT USE IT. EXTREMLY DETECTABLE! :roll: Doesnt matter if you have been using it from Day 1, sooner or later u are gonna get caught and get a 72 hour ban or alot more, depends on how many offences you've had 8) so if you value your account dont even ask for it or use it. :wink:


Posted: November 11th, 2005, 8:44 pm
 
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Maybe if you use hyper and the really fast speeds but I almsot always travel with Strider speed . . . I doubt it would raise any red flags since when I play my whm I use my heralds anyways.


Posted: November 12th, 2005, 8:28 am
 
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Doesnt matter what speed u use on the flee tool it still sends red flags up, a GM will suspect u, they dont ask questions anymore most of the time, just issue 72 Hour bans or worse. so dont think ur words will get u out of it.


Posted: November 12th, 2005, 2:01 pm
 
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Dude, I use it everyday, everytime, and if it sends a flag every time, why havnt I been caught scince the release? Maybe because they cant detect it, they get paid minimum wage, they also cant do anything without you being reported.


Posted: November 12th, 2005, 5:51 pm
 
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They dont but all it would take is for 1 person to see you. One mistake and someone reports you. The GM start looking at you for a few days to verify. After that all it would take is one instance and you get talked to. Problaly if you then go to deny everything get you might get banned since they know see that you dont have any intentions of stopping.

If you get caught I think the best thing to do is be humble.

Ask for forgiveness and tell them you will not use it again and if they do to ban you at the point. At least they might give you a chance. Since they see you are willing to change and know what you did was wrong.

BUT the best thing. If you decide to cheat dont get caught.


Posted: November 13th, 2005, 9:38 am
 
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I was thinkin bout tryin this flee tool out, but it seems I see more bad things than good things about it maybe I'll stick with what I've got. I would think that if you did happen to get caught and suspended for whatever amount of time they would probably watch you like a hawk after that and just be waitin to see you do something else to ban you.


Posted: November 13th, 2005, 11:58 am
 
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hahahaha Ok for all you dumb people keep on using that Flee tool. Just keep on using it lmao.


Posted: November 13th, 2005, 12:04 pm
 
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I dont get how they could catch you, flee tool only works cause all movement is done on the client side. If you use Flee speed its not gonna send any flags up since its a normal speed which you can use. I just cant see how they could catch you please enlighten me.


Posted: November 13th, 2005, 12:16 pm
 
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they can detect it but not as easy as you use it and bam, well maybe with hyper,and im sure SE will follow blizzards footsteps and the client will moniter your computer and if anything else suspicious is up they will flag you. :| or whatever they did >.>


Posted: November 13th, 2005, 9:08 pm
 
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~~ 72hr ban~~

nobody saw me either i was in promyvion -edit: nobody else was there- and GM come put me in jail

That means no reports, nobody saw me, and I was using Fleetool

wouldnt suggest using it anymore ;;


Posted: November 13th, 2005, 10:14 pm
 
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Someone probably seen you fleeing around and reported you before you had even entered Promyvion. It takes a bit of time after a person reports you for the GM to start watching your movements, depending on how many reports they have to go through before the person that reported you.


Posted: November 15th, 2005, 8:11 am
 
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It's obvious someone caught you guys and you're in hacking denial. If you're going to use fleetool then make sure you have sneak/invise on


Posted: November 15th, 2005, 1:51 pm
 
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i would like to share a little discovery i made since the last update.

From what i have seen, SE keeps a copy of the coordinates you have before using POS.exe or the fleetool.

How i know this?. Well after the last update, if i get dc'd after using pos.exe, when i log back in, my character would respawn in the position before i used the pos.exe.
This would happen even if i dc like 3 hours after using pos.exe, as long as i dc'd in the zone that i was originally used the pos.exe.
I believe this is how GM's check whether you used a hack or not. eg. if someone called GM on you, they'd check the position they they have on their servers and match it up with your current position.

Not sure how long SE keeps a record of your previous position before using a tele or speed hack, but from my experience, your position record on SE's server resets everytime you zone. eg. like if i don't want to leave a paper trail of you using POS.exe in qufim, i'd zone into qufim > use POS.exe > zone into the nearest zone (eg. behemoth dominion or the tower) > then zone back out to qufim.
IF i did this, my position on SE's server would reset back to normal, and if i dc'd, i'd respawn at the spot i dc'd at, instead of at the spot that i originally was before i used the tele hack.


Hope this was understandable. lol.


Posted: November 18th, 2005, 4:12 pm
 
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newjohn (!empty($user->lang['WROTE'])) ? $user->lang['WROTE'] : ucwords(strtolower(str_replace('_', ' ', 'WROTE'))):
i would like to share a little discovery i made since the last update.

From what i have seen, SE keeps a copy of the coordinates you have before using POS.exe or the fleetool.

How i know this?. Well after the last update, if i get dc'd after using pos.exe, when i log back in, my character would respawn in the position before i used the pos.exe.
This would happen even if i dc like 3 hours after using pos.exe, as long as i dc'd in the zone that i was originally used the pos.exe.
I believe this is how GM's check whether you used a hack or not. eg. if someone called GM on you, they'd check the position they they have on their servers and match it up with your current position.

Not sure how long SE keeps a record of your previous position before using a tele or speed hack, but from my experience, your position record on SE's server resets everytime you zone. eg. like if i don't want to leave a paper trail of you using POS.exe in qufim, i'd zone into qufim > use POS.exe > zone into the nearest zone (eg. behemoth dominion or the tower) > then zone back out to qufim.
IF i did this, my position on SE's server would reset back to normal, and if i dc'd, i'd respawn at the spot i dc'd at, instead of at the spot that i originally was before i used the tele hack.


Hope this was understandable. lol.


that sounds consistent with the other guy who warped all over Valkurm Dunes for 4 hours and ended up being suspended. Maybe the GM saw him, but if they checked where he's been after teleporting, that might have been one way he was caught.
The GM did mention that he saw a large number was "warps" from 9pm to 2am, which was the amt of time he was in the zone. Hmm, exciting!


Posted: November 18th, 2005, 6:21 pm
 
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Just use hyper-super-super-uber speed so your too fast for the [GM] to catch you!!!! Or use a dodge hack/skill to dodge his bans!!!!!

Seriously, I never used Fleetool and never will if you do its an insta-ban


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