What Can We Do To Make The Site Better? : General Discussion - Page 2

I would like to see a Launchpad type page for downloads myself where Active and working bots are easily accessed.

What I mean is a Standard Download link in the menu's somewhere. Usually near the Top. This takes you to a launchpad screen with a drop down that tells you to select your game. Once your game is selected A download link and a "View thread" link for each bot will appear.

Now to make it a little nicer and possibly attract more premium members. Have 2 screens. One for non premium members that just lists out the names of all the working bots, no downloads or links obviously. This way people can see just how many potential downloads are available for their given game. Then obviously a premium page which has the actual links.

I am new to the site, and you will prob slam me for commenting, but:

1) I can't find anything that actually works, except a few exploits which are already all over the internet for free. Xunleashed says it dont exist (see link on left), Exhume says download here, page cannot be displayed (see link on left).

2) Viper is charging again for the the use of its stuff, got this as it showed as a benefit to joining here.

3) Generally can't find much here that I would like.

4) a lot and i mean a lot of the forums have no activity since june or sept of this year and some for a couple years.

5) Some sort of email from you all saying exactly what my membership gives me would be nice, maybe with some newbie guide, links etc.

I am very unhappy so far, and have received nothin glike it says I would.

If someone wants to help me with links that work, or show me the ropes I won't ask for a refund under the 100% satisfaction.

--I already posted a few comments up, so don't give 100TU bucks for this --

rlwalker1968, see my private message I sent you--I'll help you out best I can. I had trouble too when I first started.

I also wanted to note that it might not be a horrible idea to allow us access to some type of source code. As far as I can tell, WyvernX has to update every game everytime a patch comes out, so we end up waiting weeks to be able to do what we were doing before, and 2 weeks after that, the next game update hits. I'm still waiting for some updated code for Vanguard that I was told would be in a day or 2, but that was over a month ago now.

Obviously, I don't know how the code was written, but from what I can tell, any game update seems to break offsets and that's about it. If all offset code could be accessed and altered by our own code, I think that would help alot. At least then I could figure out the offsets I need for my own software and post the changes for others -- This also saves WyvernX a ton of time.

Alright keep up the replies here let me start from the last comment.

silvio0321 - MMOViper is going to be apart of the site it states . As for non working apps all you need to do is post nerfed to it and we will move it. We cant know every app thats broken unless we are notified

isody12 - That is already in the works. A trading forum for tu bucks for items in games. Its going to be done shortly. Expect to see something for this done in the next upcoming weeks. Basically we are going to have one forum that is for trading. Then on our sister site www.tucex.com its going to have all the latest posts there so people can have an easy way to check things out.

Nirvana - Well we look at users to help as well make the site better. All you have to do is spend a little time going thur earlier posts saying nerfed. IF its no longer working be sure to tell us and we can move it asap. As well we are redoing our submissions area to make it more user friendly to post things you have found. We had it for awhile where you could post without a username but it was spammed by gold sites so we are working on making it more well known to users. AKA at the top of the site you will see not only news+trades but you see on the left a big image for submissions thats going to be edited.

chuckj - well we have pulled away from xunleashed and we have put more time into exhume. We are working on more docs formaking stuff with it as well. Can you also show me posts that need to have links for docs because we can add them to that post. Most of the time its the script debugger that needs to be updated. Now we had a download area but it had problems. First people needed help on it and instead of going to a specific area they just posted all over the place. It made it much harder to get help. Now a download area is nice but if its in confirmed it will be the first page. As well when we update to a newer forum which we are planning that will have a much more user friendly area for downloads. So we can add that in down the road

Glass40 - We are adding it to the joinup area that a new area for how points are granted with tu bucks. Basically if there is a confirmed post that doesnt have a ss or video and you add one you get 500 points right off the bat for adding a picture and 1k for adding a video. Easy premium. Searching isnt the best with phpbb2 we are upgrading forums after the new year and once thats done there will be a search per section added in there.

rijn - yea we would like to add girls but google will hit us as a porn site lol. As for the docs its something that we are working on. See the big problem with exhume was people could make whatever they wanted but it didnt come with much in terms of guides. Instead we have worked out a way so members can get mmoviper. Its easy to use and its the main items people need. Yes the hardcore developers get hurt some but overall it lets us give better support. See when we have thousands of people adding items without giving good guides then someone gets made because something we never created doesn't have a good guide or that person didnt update it. We look bad which we never meant to happen .

ebarana - look at my previous comment above about apps. We cant give support when people create stuff then leave. No source for us or bad programming makes it near impossible for us to give great support. How we have our solution to be mmoviper. Shortly you will have full access to it. The announcement was made on the site be sure to read it
http://www.taultunleashed.com/phpbb2/ab ... fits_.html

blull - well we have the confirmed section its pretty straightforward in there. Also if its not working just post nerfed and we can move it. As well we have it listed by using the left of the page. Then clicking on confirmed bots / hacks then you can see what we have but you cant read the topic unless you are premium.

rlwalker1968 - well first of all be sure to go thru the confirmed are and take a little time posting nerfed then so we can move it. As for the links we are redoing them some. Sorry about that its being worked on as we talk. The reason was because we are phasing out xu and sticking with some of exhume.
2) Viper is going to be free for you please read the announcement
http://www.taultunleashed.com/phpbb2/ab ... fits_.html
3) What are you after?
4) Well alot of those are games that have died out and we are going to move them to general mmorpgs and make them free to read such as hgl and tabula rasa.
5) Well when you first join there is a welcome message. That is going under a MAJOR overhaul just so you know. As well keep in mind we are redoing the submissions area.
Anything in confirmed should work. If not just post nerfed and we will move it

Glass40 - See we would love to do that but it doesnt work so easily. We have bad people around. What would happen is someone would steal the source make their own app and then sell it for like a dollar just to be a jerk. Then it hurts us so we cant pay custom programmers to help us out. To get around that we have gotten mmoviper.com which is custom coded by him and he knows inside and out.

Reason thats better is because in the past someone would use our extreme services. Release something and then give bad support to it, stop playing the game, or just be rude and not share the source with us. In turn it makes people blame us saying we dont give good tech support, but we cant when someone doesnt share the source and they have bad programming. Thats what people fail to realize the problem. For example with ffix fisher. We got someones source but it was so poorly written its a game of catchup actually figuring out their coding to update it which makes it hard. As opposed if we make our own we can know it inside and out to give great tech support. Just look at how smooth mmoviper goes because of that, but alas its hard to make people realize that. The people that make some of the apps on the site take forever to actually come back to update it and we get the gripe .

Keep up the good comments guys and gals. Its beneficial to helping the site and gives us some new ideas.

First off thank you very much, the fast reply was great.

Basically I am not a scripter, I cannot write code, or any of that. I am a hardware specialist and have been building, machines (about 500 or more) for almost 10 years. Each one a completely custom machine.

I am basically looking for a little edge, some functioning script that will assist me in some aspects of the game, I don't need or even really want to cheat. I am however looking for a bot to help me kill, maybe gain a few levels, I don't even require it to be able to run 24/7/365, maybe an hour or 2-4, something simple. Basically I joined to try the viperbot, maybe get an eve mining bot that works.

This and I am very happy.

rlwalker1968 - so you joined for eve then im assuming? We have some mining bots that work. As for viper it doesnt support eve as it stands we are working on getting something down the road though on viper i know.

1. Easier UI

2.More straight forward help, not hints and tips

Sure, you cant correct that now if it went like that. I read somewhere to post stuff here you have to leave the source with the admins. Anyway, if you didnt take care of that you wont be able to fix it now.
I know you always refer to mmoviper.
1) i made my decision to join here and pay (lifetime) after i checked the stuff i wanted to use and it worked (with some issues still) acceptable with my localized client. In some cases i put a lot of work into making it run with localized clients as well as some of the authors really make efforts to help out (thx all of them). And the stuff (crafter, bot225, harvester) are really easy to use and are (what i prefer) external stuff. The only thing that is really uncomfortable that you cant save your login info.
2) i dont want to pay a second time for mmoviper, especially as i still have 0 information if anything there works with localized clients or wheter it is external stuff or not.
3) even if it will be "included" in this subscription, it really takes a loooong time to be finalized and we hear "only a few days more" for weeks or months now. This is not really helpful (especially as i dont even know whether that stuff will be usable).
4) i read that the mmoviper stuff somehow binds to one computer. I have 3 machines i use at different times that i use for the same eq2 subscription, i wouldnt have 3 subsriptions to do the same i do now with one.

Here is a good suggestion. When an admin post something like this .....

"Ill send this to the techs to look at for you guys "

....someone actually does ( see diplobot). The VG section has ONE working program, and thats it. Its a darn good one, but with the exception of that, no one literally seems to care about anything else. There is at least one other very nice program that could be utilized, but the offsets were broken months ago, and after several attempts to get someone to fix them, it just collects dust instead. I also wont even mention VG Viper..../sigh.

I realize that the VG section from a popularity perspective is low on the totem pole, but my gosh, its literally given no love at all short of one good program and a great moderator.

Im sorry to come off in such a way, but its really very sad imo.

ebarana - it wont be like months away. The programs are already done there. See the problem with programming is its hard to give exact dates due to the fact you cant know when you will find that one last offset needed or something else. Also mmoviper you wont have to pay for. You have access to all the stuff that is made by only wyvernx for life which is all the current stuff there. Also with binding yes that does happen. Its not because we are jerks who want to make people made. The reason is because if we didnt people would steal it sell it and we wouldnt be able to pay people to work on it and support it. A stupid problem we have from thieves.

Rommel62 - Your going to get a fully working Vanguard bot coming out soon. The thing was when services where made people just wernt as into it versus making really good items people want. So after the merger is done you are going to have an awesome hunting bot you can use with your membership. As well things can always be added to games such as crafting bots, fishing bots, ect ect so people can use them easier. Also keep in mind since they are made by our staff the support and updates on them ARE WAY EASIER.

This is indeed very good news. I cant wait!

Thanks for the reply.

rommel62 - See overall people will benefit more. What someone like you just didnt realize was most of the programs where made by using our services, but they wernt made by us. So when it comes to tech support we are pretty much null and void to actually help. But it should be up and ready for all soon

Most companies, especially software companies found out that it is not a good idea to limit/punish paying customers by trying to prevent stealing or selling. Those who circumvent logon/validation or use other methods will do so anyway. But to restrict the use (especially if you change the ways to use stuff after someone subscribed paid) is a bad way to conduct business. The problem is there, sure - just you use the wrong tools. Dont try to get a nail in the wall with a screwdriver.
I.e. I can us my subsciption for EQ2 on EVERY Pc, where eq2 is installed - i cant see that mmo software needs stricter regulations - but its your possible customers and your business model. Only bad for people who trusted you and paid for a long time. If i knew that back then, i`d never have made that type of subscription.

And one last comment on "its not months away anymore". Yes, maybe (or not) but from the first statements where it was said "coming soon" or "in a few days or weeks" it is already months since then.

@ebarana

That may actually work in other areas or fields, but you will find that in the area of bots and the kind of people that this type of a site interests, the idea of hacking or exploiting a bot is very high. I mean most of the people here are here to exploit a game, so they have no quams about exploiting a bot to use it for free instead of pay.

@rommel62, we (well mainly I) are moving to a new architechure to develop games and support (ie viper). I can easily update that and it is painless to update. Alof of the things that I have written in the past are outdated and use a substandard architechure for getting updates out. Head over to mmoviper.com and grab the latest VG ViperBot and try it out (its free to everybody right now anyway). Send feedback on what you want added. Right now there are 2 off us working quite hard at maintaining that site and getting out steady updates. One of the biggest problems I have here is I am shuved 20 different apps to support that were written by different people, and it really is a pain in the !@#$%^&* to support somebody elses software

Thanks Wyvernx for the response. I can understand the logistic dliema you have trying to keep a bunch of apps running that you didnt write or uses a substandard architecture. Since you guys apparently in a transition state, which supposedly should make everything better shortly, that is definately something to look forward to.

You also mentioned trying out MMOViper for VG. I think I downloaded it the first day it was released. I wont go through all the details here ( it can be found in the only post in the VG section of Viper forums), but essentially it doesnt work for me as is. It targets, folllows, but wont attack. Went back and forth with the moderators, but basically no one could figure it out. I waited to see who else posted to see if it was just me, or anyone else could get it to work. There was one other poster, who reported somewhat similar problems ( not exactly), and there were no other posts. So based on what Ive seen so far, Ive seen no responses to indicate anyone has it working correctly at this time, other than the moderators.

So in other words, I think it needs some work yet.

There have been updates to the software since, but the download availble for VG is the original release. Not sure if anything has been fixed in the updates for VG, but I cant even try them out if I wanted to.

I really was looking forward to Viper, but honestly it has not been of any use yet, at least for me. Hopefully, someone can fix it. Im more than willing to be the test guinea(sp?) pig if needed

Thanks for you work!

Rommel